Geoff EganIt's almost impressive that AvP sucks so bad...
March 11th 2008 01:57
I was just looking around the net when I noticed that Alien vs Predator may be getting another sequel. I really don’t know what to think about this. I adore Alien and Aliens (Aliens would easily be my favourite Sci-Fi and War movie I’ve seen), and Predator was one of the best escape/action movies ever, and second only the mighty Terminator 2 as far as Arnie movies go. But AvP was just abhorrent. AvP2, I’ve watched like 20minutes of before the annoying inconsistencies got the better of me (Alien embryoes hatch after you've woken up from the impregnation procedure, not while you're still passed out)
My first experience of the AvP franchise was the video game. From that moment I was in love. You could be a Marine, an Alien or a Predator, and the game just captured the feelings behind both movies. Hell I’ve even read some of the comics, and there is one major (and surely obvious) difference between them and the movies: they are set in space in the Alien universe, not present day earth. It seems so basic and easy. Set the damn thing in the Alien universe, have a squad of Colonial Marines fighting to survive from the ravenous hordes of bugs (that’s Aliens for the uninitiated) while being hunted by the technologically superior warrior society of the Predators.
One of the key themes of Predator was the war like nature of humanity failing miserable to the basic predatory instincts of the Predator. Let’s see that against some plasma rifle and flamethrowers, not civilians running around with pistols.
I have this one scene in my head from the video game that sums it up. I remember being a Colonial Marine, and fighting off a horde of Aliens only to look up in the forest I was in to see a couple of skinned human bodies hanging from the trees. I knew what the meant. I started firing blindly into the trees as shoulder cannon fire began to rain down from my invisible assailant. That’s what I want. I want to be trapped in the middle of an intergalactic war with no end, not a damn hunting trip.
Is it too much to ask for this?
Rather than this?
I don’t know why I’m the only person who seems to have realised this. Two such amazing franchises have come together so well in every other medium they’ve tried to and failed so miserably in cinema. I think I’d be excited for another AvP, just because the series has so much potential, I mean it can’t go downhill right? Right?
My first experience of the AvP franchise was the video game. From that moment I was in love. You could be a Marine, an Alien or a Predator, and the game just captured the feelings behind both movies. Hell I’ve even read some of the comics, and there is one major (and surely obvious) difference between them and the movies: they are set in space in the Alien universe, not present day earth. It seems so basic and easy. Set the damn thing in the Alien universe, have a squad of Colonial Marines fighting to survive from the ravenous hordes of bugs (that’s Aliens for the uninitiated) while being hunted by the technologically superior warrior society of the Predators.
One of the key themes of Predator was the war like nature of humanity failing miserable to the basic predatory instincts of the Predator. Let’s see that against some plasma rifle and flamethrowers, not civilians running around with pistols.
I have this one scene in my head from the video game that sums it up. I remember being a Colonial Marine, and fighting off a horde of Aliens only to look up in the forest I was in to see a couple of skinned human bodies hanging from the trees. I knew what the meant. I started firing blindly into the trees as shoulder cannon fire began to rain down from my invisible assailant. That’s what I want. I want to be trapped in the middle of an intergalactic war with no end, not a damn hunting trip.
Is it too much to ask for this?
Rather than this?
I don’t know why I’m the only person who seems to have realised this. Two such amazing franchises have come together so well in every other medium they’ve tried to and failed so miserably in cinema. I think I’d be excited for another AvP, just because the series has so much potential, I mean it can’t go downhill right? Right?
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Comment by Jarrah
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I loved the 1st predator, and think its probably the best alien ever invented.
Surprisingly to me, I actually thought the first AVP was really good for what they had to work with.
The 2nd however had a huge budget, and turned out to be a zero stroyline gore-fest.
One of the worst movies I've ever seen at the cinema. Ugh.
Wasted franchise.
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Comment by Geoff Egan
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'Wasted franchise' is exactly my point. So much potential that so far has amounted to nothing. That article I linked to did say that plans were for any possible AvP3 to be in space, but i'm still wary.
Unless they can get James Cameron back to do it, or Ridley Scott who did Alien, I can't see much of a return to form.
I can't think off the top of my head of another director that could pull it off. Rodriguez or Snyder possibly?